[-empyre-] mem(e)ories?




re:  M asked "how do we feel about attribution of ownership in regards 2
> mem(e)ories?......

M you raise the question of ownership regarding memories but want to deny
ownership in thought and speech, ("its all just rehashed thoughts and texts from someone else that
i've consumed  over time and regurgitated in my own mix.." .)
How much originality are you able to attribute to your "own mix"?
And what of found/false/fluid memories?
One of my daughters animates stories she's heard in the family, photographs she's seen, inserting herself
into events, creating memories that are actual if not factual.
Our genetic memories via the genotype, are susceptible to change in the phenotype, the lived experience,  and how
are these memories comparable to web personalities effects? Working in convergence media, Avatar Body Collision
are always dealing with diverse memory effects. During a recent cyberformance of 'Screen Save Her' in
London, we programmed two Palace scenes so that performers were hands-free to move
avatars around the Palace stage while simultaneously cyberforming different personas on webcams. If one cyberformer lost her
connection the Palace scripting would halt: how to enact a group event when part of group memory has been dropped? We could
wheel out a chatterbot to fill the avatar gap, but on the webcams we couldn't replace that
missing body/window.  On webcams, we just rely on improvisation, our 'own mix', over-writing the original in run-time, i.e. like life, not like theatre.

K



K+M wrote
> >memory is one string, both embodied and disembodied memories,
> >as unreliable as bodies and words.
>
> ..


i also think there is an energetic line that binds them..  a sticky virtual
protein string,  maybe its somehow enmeshed in the electrical energetic
bursts  thata make my computer screen and the web happen... also i truely
believe i have gene memories.. memories and familiaraties that have nothing
to do with my conscious lived experience on or offline.. (um and i DONT mean
new age past-lives..i mean memory that is physically encoded) so im
wondering about memory that is physically encoded in web personalities..?
our memory of them their memories of themselves..

 ....i find watching pre-parkinson's footage of michael j fox so
> fascinating, as u realise that those idiosyncratic body-gestures may not b
> so idiosyncratic after all, but precursors of the onset of a condition
that
> is basically physical identity-notation|body language parsing gone
awry.....


yes i sat with a great aunt after a stroke and she made the most amazing
poetic dada surreal sentance constructions.. like you could really see/hear
the  hardwire errors of consciouss commiunication at work building another
langauage which made complete sense to her but no one else untill you
stsrted to decode it..


.> >finally I find a thread in the banter that connects this person/text to
me.
> >reading academic papers made up of a patchwork of quotations
> >I wonder 'who is actually talking here?'.

yeah but we are all just amalgums each time we speak anyway.. the
referenceing thing just make sit more formal.. nothing ive written here is
original..its all just rehashed thoughts and texts from someone else that
i've consumed  over time and regurgitated in my own mix..
i keep getting back to the idea that nothing is original ..there is no
newness in the world.. just recycling of finite parts..

melinda



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